So What’s All This MGTOW Thing? - by HamstaBlasta

So What’s All This MGTOW Thing?

Men Going Their Own Way are men who have:

• Seen through the Big Lie of society’s ‘Women are perfect, loving Angels™' and 'Males are disposable utilities™'. Our opposites, the 'Real Men™' of society, accept the Lie and view women as the ultimate prize in life; thus sacrifice themselves fully for women and society... just... because.

• An unusually strong ability to self-validate and self-define, rather than needing society’s, and women’s, external validation/definition.

They’ve taken an objective look (‘taken the red pill’) at what’s really going on behind the curtain (of ‘the blue pill world’), and said, ‘Screw all that – gone fishing.’

Women are not the perfect centre of the Universe; and men are not demons, or disposable toasters, emotional tampons or ATMs.

It isn’t a movement, since it doesn’t have a strong unity of purpose or political end goal that must be reached (thus ‘marriage strike’ is an inaccurate term for MGTOW), and it isn’t a temporary trend and drift in thought: Timeless it is, though it’s on a massively larger scale than it ever has been in the past. Though it goes by many names, it is huge numbers of men, across the world, walking their own path and enjoying the walk itself – in a way that, historically, only a handful of Sages and other Great Men did. It has been termed a ‘Male Renaissance’.

It is notable that an awful lot of (and possibly most) MGTOW were thinking that way, and living that life, long before they were even aware that there was such a thing as 'MGTOW'.

So it isn’t a cult, since it has no semi-worshiped leader, or much of an ideology (and certainly no ideological-purity police) and very little by way of prescribed or proscribed lifestyle - by definition. Some live simply, to starve the beast and maximise their free time, but some work hard to be able to afford their expensive dream in life. OK, folks are innately tribal (with all that in/out group stuff that goes with that), and men are competitive, so there are sometimes bitter rivalries between little sub-groups of MGTOW... but that’s more ‘boys will be boys’ than real ideological schism.

It is a founding principle of this forum that we try to break this internecine cycle, and stop being our own cannibalistic worst enemy.

MGTOW are not ‘angry misogynists who can’t get laid’. To be sure, some of us got our look behind the curtain due to trauma committed by a woman being a woman, aided and abetted by the State and Culture, and have every right in the world to be angry... though, ideally, this is just a natural early part of the male healing process, and MGTOW are staunchly and resolutely against violence and the advocacy for violence. (We hold an essential moral high-ground that Feminism, for instance, does not.)

Such poorly used men will get precious little sympathy, or even the all-important empathy, from gynocentric/misandric society; but they can get some in places like this, plus a better understanding of what really happened to them and why – such things being important to the responsible, logical-reasoners and problem-solvers that we are as men.

They do ‘get laid’ (and some even have a girlfriend or a wife), or can ‘get laid’ but choose not to; either way, what sets them apart from others is their choice is an internal one, based on the ‘eyes wide open’ knowledge of the actual risks of this activity.

There is no starry-eyed pedestalisation of women, no defining self-worth by the externality of female approval/how much sex you get (such folk would be more the stereotypical PUAs than MGTOW). There is being mindful of false accusations, the female ‘gun in the room’ that the State and Culture gives to them at birth, the games that women’s rationalisation hamsters play, and the ‘Oops’ pregnancy trap, etc.

Ghosts (a sub-set of MGTOW) choose to not ‘get laid’ for various reasons. If they’d actually really like to, but can’t, then it is the woman's choice, not theirs. Such people are termed ‘involuntary celibates’ (‘incels’). Though I sympathise with these fellas, they are not MGTOW, and shouldn’t be confused with MGTOW. They have their own path, which is not ours.

Another thing that tends to set MGTOW apart from others, is pretty hardcore Biological Essentialism: most of human nature, and therefore human Culture, is primarily driven by human biology. The opposed Social Constructivist ‘Blank Slate’ rubbish is the darling of Feminists, SJWs, Communists, ‘Academia’ generally now and everyone else who is besotted with freakish social-engineering projects – you won’t find much of it in MGTOW circles.

One way to understand the difference between MGTOW and MRAs is that the former focus on the individual, and MRAs focus on societal change. They are not inconsistent, and in some cases, our worldviews may overlap. But one simple way to think about it is that MGTOW focus on the individual arena and MRAs focus on the system, and the system's effect on all men. MGTOW could be considered pragmatists, and MRAs could be considered idealists. There are various thoughts amongst MGTOW about what a better future could be, and how we could arrive at that... though, to be honest, most MGTOW are primarily focused on their individual circumstances. Often, they’re too busy enjoying their own lives and holding up the middle finger to society’s inequitable and hypocritical ‘Thou shalt Man Up!’